00:44:16 Garrick Prayogg: Greetings from Wirral/Liverpool City Region, Garrick Prayogg 00:44:48 Lorna Andrade: Hello Carole and Speakers. I am looking forward to this education. 00:44:55 william dunham: Thanks Carole and organizers / special day for all!😌 00:45:13 Tess Snipes: Stone Mountain, GA 00:45:18 Linda Fus: Edinburgh, Scotland 00:45:21 Veronica King: I'm from London, UK 00:45:26 Stephen Maynard: Swansea, Wales UK 00:45:30 Rakeb Getnet: London, UK 00:45:30 Lorna Andrade: Dr. Lorna Chambers- Andrade, Martha's Vineyard Mass. USA 00:45:33 Kerima Lewis: Good morning from Kerima Lewis of Brockton, MA 00:45:35 Ruben Britt: Hello Carole, 00:45:36 Claude Hendrickson: Greeting from Leeds West Yorkshire 00:45:43 Akil Morgan: Yes people! Big up from Liverpool UK! ✊🏽 00:45:43 Christine .: London, Uk 00:45:44 Bobby Anderson: Boston, MA 00:45:51 Ruben Britt: Voorhees, New Jersey 00:45:57 Tamanika Howze: Greetings from Tamanika Howze, Pittsburgh,PA 00:45:59 Meryl Lieberman: Greetings from NAACP, Humbly living on stolen Tewa land in Santa Fe, New Mexico 00:46:04 Angela Williams-Mitchell: Happy Thursday. Angela, Boston MA 00:46:12 Michele Greene: Hello from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA 00:46:13 Barbara Bostick: Hello Everyone, 00:46:15 Mahmood Ahmed: Mebs Ahmed greetings to everyone form Preston, Lancashire UK 00:46:22 Angela Williams-Mitchell: Ops, Friday 00:46:22 Gladys Nesbit: Gladys Nesbit, Pgh, Pa US;AND STILL WE RISE!!! 00:46:25 Veronica Clarke: Hello everyone from Veronica in Tamworth Staffs, UK 00:46:33 Kelly Charles: Hello from Nottingham, UK 00:47:08 Prof. Laura Serrant OBE: hello all from NOttinghamshire, UK 00:47:19 Barbara Bostick: Hello Everyone, Barbara Bostick NBMBAA Dayton Ohio 00:47:23 Angel Simmonds: Hello Everyone, 00:47:27 Derrick Bryant: Greetings from NY 00:47:37 Sarah Gielty: Hello everyone from Alder Hey in Liverpool :) 00:48:05 Angel Simmonds: Angela Simmonds Brighton UK 00:48:09 Sunny Lambe: Hello everyone. It's Cllr Sunny Lambe from London, UK. Nice to see you all. Sunny 00:48:18 Bobby Anderson: Hello from NYC flying to Detroit 00:49:49 Rev. Phillip R. Agee: Glad to be with all of you on this precious occasion. Rev. Phillip R. Agee from Connecticut. 00:52:28 Edith Millard: Go Curry College!!! 00:53:27 Carole Copeland Thomas: Do you know what Code Speaking is????? 00:53:40 garrick prayogg Liverpool: Greetings from Wirral/Liverpool, Garrick Prayogg, Windrush Advocate and champaiging 00:54:00 Carole Copeland Thomas: What is Code Switch??? Do you know what it is??? 00:54:44 Edith Millard: Great to hear from Curry College students! Edith Millard, Curry College 00:55:16 garrick prayogg Liverpool: shifing from norm to fit in or adopting 00:58:30 Carole Copeland Thomas: Code Switching is switching your dialect from the main stream to local vernacular speech patterns. 01:05:41 Carole Copeland Thomas: Wow!! “Go back home and grow bananas!!” What an insult!!! 01:06:22 Akil Morgan: Yes Godfrey.. love Brewdog 🍻 01:11:13 Akil Morgan: Please explain why BHM should be a focus? I feel it's mostly hijacked by White organisations (uni's, etc) and for the most part prescribed to us.. token gesture so boxes can be ticked.. 01:11:32 Garth Dallas: Feel Free to put your questions in the chat and we will do our best to get them answered by the penelists 01:12:11 Akil Morgan: That's my experience here in Liverpool Toxteth community.. 01:12:54 garrick prayogg Liverpool: The UK Government says no Racism in UK,but both black and white knows that is not the case everyday realities say opposite alive and kicking 01:12:54 Akil Morgan: and I've ran a community discussion 'BHM.. tokenism or empowerment' ... 01:13:02 Angel Simmonds: A Social Construct 01:13:25 Carole Copeland Thomas: Race is actually a social construct!! It was created in the 1700s during the slave trade era. 01:14:33 Angel Simmonds: Well said!!! totally agree 01:14:56 Joseph Mullings: Great point proff! Deconstruct the construction… 01:15:09 Angela Williams-Mitchell: Race is a group of like people. Racism did not exist until slavery. 01:15:13 Carole Copeland Thomas: Learn more about Critical Race Theory at understandcrt.com 01:16:50 Carole Copeland Thomas: Our moderator today, Bill Wells, lives outside of Minneapolis, Minneapolis where George Floyd was murdered in 2020. 01:17:13 Chris Burgess: Race to me means competing in the field of running 01:17:39 Akil Morgan: Got my name perfect ❤️ 01:17:58 Akil Morgan: Thanks for picking up my question 🙏🏽 01:18:19 Carole Copeland Thomas: Critical Race Theory (CRT) is an academic and legal framework created by law experts and scholars in the 1970s and 80s that has blown up into a controversial hot topic around the country. CRT is now tied to educational efforts as either an ideological concept or a threat to the "freedom" of our nation. Despite the naysayers, CRT has never been used as the educational foundation for public school systems around the United States, nor has it been the principal framework used by diversity experts in the country. 01:20:12 Rev. Phillip R. Agee: Excellent point. Rev Agee 01:21:22 Angela Williams-Mitchell: Racism and other words like BIPOC are made up words engineered to dilute, divide and conquer. 01:21:24 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: So true, Professor Serrant. We will never finish the work about race!!! 01:22:03 Anna Perkins: Part of the challenge for Black persons in certain spaces is being called upon to "represent" for the race - carrying the "burden" of what it means to be Black as a homogenous idea/experience. 01:22:07 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Yes I know about William Wilberforce!! 01:22:23 Michele Greene: Great points Prof. Serrant! 01:22:32 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: My grandfather graduated from Wilberforce!!! 01:23:30 Garth Dallas: Seeing these comments in the chat, reinforce the reason why we have set up (and need) this Summit. It allows us to have honest discussions about race - good and bad. 01:23:37 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Professor Palmer, please put the counterpart to William Willberforce in the chat. 01:23:55 Sarah Gielty: I didn't know a lot of Liverpool's history until reading Nova Reid's book this year despite living here for 40 years. 01:24:45 Anna Perkins: Prof Palmer, thank you for your work. It is not taught but also deliberately erased or distorted. Hence Wilberforce is taught in a sort of isolationist way... 01:24:45 Garth Dallas: Henry Dundas 01:25:00 Garth Dallas: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/heritage-and-retro/heritage/the-voice-of-the-people-has-been-heard-human-rights-campaigner-sir-geoff-palmer-hails-new-edinburgh-slavery-plaque-3433765 01:25:01 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Thank you Garth. 01:25:16 garrick prayogg Liverpool: History is everyone history,the black bit is a reminder to be included in black ,history ,try black and white history ,maybe Our historyperiod. 01:27:14 Joseph Mullings: The knowledge though… 👏 👏 👏 01:27:43 Veronica Clarke: So true Geoff 01:27:45 Akil Morgan: Appreciate your answers and perspectives 🙏🏽 01:28:02 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: It's the hijacking of Critical Race Theory by conservative and right wing groups that have given CRT a very bad image. 01:30:22 Tamanika Howze: it is far beyond ignorance. EYES WIDE OPEN... WHITE. SUPREMACY...WHITE POWER...FACISM...EXPLOITATION WORLD WIDE...DOMINANCE WORLD WIDE 01:30:47 Charlee Martin: That's such a good point on "social justice", so non-specific and without a real roadmap for change 01:31:05 Oyewole Yakeen Ajagbe: Race is one of the grounds for refugee status in terms of UN 1951 refugee convention. Does the opinion expressed by the panel makes the convention antiquated? 01:32:10 Akil Morgan: Yes, access to opportunity 01:32:26 Michele Greene: Yes indeed 01:33:38 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: TODAY’S US UK PROGRAM READ THE BIO PAGE https://www.mssconnect.com/meet-the-oct-7th-speakers.html READ THE AGENDA HERE https://www.mssconnect.com/oct-7-2022-agenda-us-uk.html 01:33:59 Linda Fus: Yes, it's coming back to privilege, we need conscious awareness of what skills and tools we have at our finger tips to lift people up, give opportunities for diversity of thought at board meetings, team meetings, internships, etc 01:34:23 Bakari Copeland: The "Daughters of the Confederacy" (white-washed) school curriculum model, was redemptive in its determination to ensure "White Supremacy." They installed a self-determination to strengthen a racist invent. 01:35:53 Joseph Mullings: I hope there's a book in the works or somewhere out there for the life and work of Prof. Palmer? Does this exist? 01:36:05 Gladys Nesbit: GLADYS NESBIT:I have been blesed to have 4 grgreatchilren and they will be taught Black History , as we taught their parents and grparent,Do It Our Selves!!!!!! 01:36:11 garrick prayogg Liverpool: more reading more access to black literture 01:38:00 garrick prayogg Liverpool: spot on 01:38:55 Charlee Martin: And empower people to be those champions within their roles - because there's an education piece here. 01:38:56 Michele Greene: Thank you both for a great discussion and pointing out ways to take action! Soooo good! 01:39:43 Linda Fus: thank you so much, amazing session so far!! 01:39:44 Charlee Martin: This was fantastic! Thank you so much! 01:39:57 Tamanika Howze: Teaching OUR history, WORLD history MUST include Africa as its roots. Racism is systemic and engrained in EVERY fiber of society,this, school systems are infected. GO TO THE PEOPLE, GRASSROOTS to organize history taught as it should be. 01:40:10 Anna Perkins: Thanks so much to the esteemed panel. 01:41:18 Lorna Andrade: Thank You and I agree with everything shared. 01:41:23 Tamanika Howze: WE NEED TO HAVE OUR OWN SCHOOLS. Until we do that, establish learning academies. We CAN & MUST REACH OUR PEOPLE!! 01:41:34 Cllr Sunny Lambe, London, UK: Thank you. 01:41:51 Ruben Britt: Education in the U.S. and UK was created by colonized principles and it continues to exist today. We must push for education reform. particularly in K-16 education. With the changing demographics in public education where over 50% of the students are of color, it is imperative for school districts to be confronted to change their curriculum to be more inclusive. This has to be change in the pedagogy of teacher training. with over 70% of the teachers are white, they must be trained to teach a curriculum that is inclusive and rid them from cultural illiteracy. Malcom X addressed this when he said this about white educators “We can’t teach what we don’t know and we can’t lead where we won’t go.” 01:42:06 Prof. Laura Serrant OBE: Thank you. my contact laura”lauraserrant.com 01:42:40 Prof. Laura Serrant OBE: Laura@lauraserrant.com 01:43:02 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Insightful panel discussion. Thank you Prof Serrant and Prof Palmer!!!! 01:43:30 Gladys Nesbit: ASHE, SIS,TAMANIKA !!!! 01:44:33 Bakari Copeland: "Abolishment" of enslavement can never be an interpret of progress, or an appear of a redemptive act...not in the face of a human toll that casted millions under the horror of a European abomination... no subconscious compromising of a psychological-paradigm forever and only focused on strengthening a ravaged socio-economic group. 01:44:44 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: OBE is the Order of The British Empire The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire is a British order of chivalry, rewarding contributions to the arts and sciences, work with charitable and welfare organisations, and public service outside the civil service. 01:45:21 Lorna Andrade: Dr. Lorna,, We must educate all and teach Myths will not help us with Equity now. We need Genetic screenings to get to the ROOT cause of disease we are manifesting now. 01:47:32 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Please keep putting your ACTION STEPS in the Chat!! 01:50:55 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Please explain the UK's Constitutional Monarchy. 01:59:04 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Everyone in my family….dating back to my grandparents attended a Historically Black College. I am the only family member who did not go to a Historically Black College or University. My daughter graduated from Spelman College!! 02:00:23 Charlee Martin: And those institutions, like Morgan State, or Morris Brown, were started as small, grass-roots collectives of our best and brightest sharing what they know. The need for the education was first - the institution came later. 02:01:06 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: My ancestral uncle, Bishop Wesley John Gaines, co-founded Morris Brown College. 02:01:31 Bakari Copeland: George Clinton is the same age as Emmett Till - 81 02:02:07 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Wow Bakari….George Clinton in the same sentence as Emmet Till…. 02:03:52 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Patrick is talking about Ruby Bridges. 02:04:15 Lorna Andrade: Please join the Association of African American Life and other History it is International in Chapters. 02:04:40 Lorna Andrade: Called ASALH Dr. Carter G. Woodson 02:04:48 Bakari Copeland: Paul Mooney and Dionne Warwick also...all 81 years old (as Emmett Louis Till). They each had to think, "That boy's killing could have been me." 02:05:34 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Yes, Dr. Andrade. I am a proud member of ASALH because of you and Dr. Thelma Johnson. 02:05:36 William Wells: HBCU's in my family as well: Wife went to Texas Southern, youngest son to Florida A&M and now our grandson is a freshman at Morgan State. 02:05:58 Tamanika Howze: I hope our people will RESEARCH & STUDY AFRICAN & AFRICAN AMERICAN SCHOLARS (in particular) to learn about our true history. Please Note: OUR HISTORY DID NOT BEGIN WITH SLAVERY AS TAUGHT IN MANY PUBLIC SCHOOLS in the U.S. A FEW HISTORIANS TO RESEARCH & STUDY: *IVAN VAN SERTIMA, CHANCELLOR WILLIAMS, MAULANA KARENGA, GREG CARR 02:07:28 Veronica Clarke: Totally agree about the black pound 02:09:11 Kerima Lewis: How is the fight for reparations going in Britain? 02:10:25 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: What a fascinating tour of America!!! 02:10:50 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Please put your questions for Patrick in the Chat. 02:11:06 Bakari Copeland: Resource: "The Karen Hunter Show - Classes with Carr" The largest "Africana studies class" in the world. Grown out of the COVID-19 shut down, the coalition growth is comprehensive and international. Show re. England: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGSwwdQACNU In Class with Carr, Ep. 131: The Queen's History...Colonialism and More 02:16:36 Bakari Copeland: I walked the 2015 commemoration walk (52 mile) to Montgomery/"Bloody Sunday"...5 days. The "KKK" cowards put a note on a popular foot soldiers broken down car the night before. Selma, Alabama 2015 02:17:48 Denise: Correct me if I'm wrong but there was discussion on the changing of the name of the bridge to John Robert Lewis. Congressman Lewis thought not to change the name so that "we do not forget." Not sure where the discussion is at the moment. 02:19:14 Veronica Clarke: Thank you for clarifying that Denise 02:19:18 Bakari Copeland: There certainly was that Congressman John Lewis conversation during 2015...good point...much deserved...a movement to keep alive. 02:20:53 Ray Hammond: The Alabama Senate voted 23-3 for legislation that would change the official name to the “Edmund W. Pettus-Foot Soldiers Bridge.” However, the lettering on the famous bridge would remain unaltered. The name “Foot Soldiers” would be on a separate sign that would include a silhouette of the marchers.Apr 6, 2022 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/alabama-plan-advances-alter-name-edmund-pettus-bridge-rcna23211#:~:text=The%20Alabama%20Senate%20voted%2023,a%20silhouette%20of%20the%20marchers. 02:22:06 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Interesting point Denise about the Pettus Bridge name change discussion. 02:22:17 Denise: @ Pastor Hammond - Thank you! 02:22:56 Michele Greene: This quote goes along with what Dr. Serrant spoke about earlier! 02:23:06 Denise: In "Consistency" lies the key! 02:23:35 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Yes, thank you Pastor Hammond for the bridge update. 02:25:30 Barbara Waters: Consistency, and accountability within families to share, teach their own family history to each generation 02:25:52 Bakari Copeland: Speaking to the House of Representative with the gavel pounding!!! for Congressman John Lewis to Stop Talking, while he is certainly spitting...yelling out, "People died!!! People died for your right to vote!...Vote!!!...People died! 02:26:35 Denise: Congressman Lewis - Get in Good Trouble, Necessary Trouble! 02:26:38 Angel Simmonds: I work in Brighton and Hove, they are really trying to drive forward with an anti-racist schools strategy which I am not working on. 02:27:21 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Mic Drop!!!! Patrick you ROCK!!! 02:27:22 Bakari Copeland: "Get Into Good Trouble..." 02:27:23 Anna Perkins: Thanks, Patrick. I was with you on that journey. Inspiring and informative. 02:27:32 Michele Greene: Well, that was awesome. 02:28:52 Marie Doubleday: I have been involved with CRPL program through the school system here for over the past two years. Black Print out of Boston has been leading this with many Massachusetts 's school districts presenting both European and American history (abriviated) through an African American perspective. 02:29:01 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: We are taking a group photo next! Please don't leave!! 02:31:49 Lorna Andrade: Thank You again, I have another meetingto attend 02:32:37 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: So very insightful Charlee!! Looking at race from both countries. Wow!! 02:33:41 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Slow and Steady!! 02:34:00 Sarah Gielty: Amazing Charlee, thank you 02:34:10 Anna Perkins: Thanks, Charlee! 02:34:31 Charlee Martin: Lol! I hope I've gotten a Liverpool accent! 😍 Thank you everyone! 02:35:17 Veronica King: This has ben a great Summit with much important information, suggested strategies, and how the UK & US can collaborate ore closely on the race issues. 02:35:30 Cassie Quinlan: Yes Charlee - so important, glad you many ve speaking. There's something to be said for "slow and steady" in terms of a stable environment in which to study - and break into smaller segments of various issues. In USA, too many voices tied to USA history, so "slow and steady looks like MORE expectation of slow waiting, no action. 02:37:08 garrick prayogg Liverpool: Many thanks for everyone contributions 02:37:19 Ray Hammond: Two wonderful reflections on experience of the African Diaspora in the UK and the US! 02:37:30 Frank Slater: Thank you all. Always interesting. 02:37:48 Cassie Quinlan: And the British expression, "Brilliant!" is such a nice High Five, used across the society! 02:37:50 Prof. Laura Serrant OBE: apologies i do need to leave - i have a family commitment. Thank you for the invitation. 02:38:05 Gloria Love: Thank you. Gloria C. Love, PhD. New Orleans, Louisiana 02:38:34 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Fabulous speakers! Thank you Prof Palmer, Prof Serrant, Patrick, Bill Wells, and for ALL of you for attending!!! 02:41:47 Charlee Martin: Yes Cassie, that's is true, we don't want stall tactics! But, when approaching problems on an issue by issue basis, there should be step-change from point A to point B. And that should be measured. The smaller segments should give us that low hanging fruit, instant feedback on the journey. If nothing has happened, that's not slow and steady, that's stalled, and we can't let people confuse those two thing 02:41:49 Cassie Quinlan: So valuable to teach the varied experiences - not the same, but very related. 02:44:07 Michele Greene: WOW! I am soooo pleased that I stayed on to hear that! 02:44:14 Arnold Sapenter: Thank you very to all the wonderful panelists, speakers and participants today! 🌿 02:44:31 Veronica Clarke: Wow that was great 02:44:49 Ray Hammond: Excellent presentation! 02:45:30 Michele Greene: Thank you Carole and Garth for this platform. As always you never disappoint. Thank you so much. Unfortunately I have to sign off now. Thanks again. 02:45:54 Garth Dallas: Thank you Michele 02:46:01 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Thank you to EVERYONE for attending our event today!! 02:46:48 Veronica Clarke: Thank you for the invite, most interesting 02:47:25 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: Critical Race Theory has been HIJACKED!! 02:47:38 Cassie Quinlan: Maybe if EU could highlight the value of CRT to hear voices so long ignored - USA would have other influences, that share value of hearing from all, not some shut out informally, forever, by institutional designs and geography in USA, which is different in Britain - more of a village country consciousness. 02:50:37 Bakari Copeland: - Thank you to Carole Copeland Thomas for her spirit of unwavering dedication to the Diaspora. Kudos to all panelist for sharing your unique and powerful perspectives, encouraging "food for action"...not just food for thought. - Thank you Mr. Vernon for putting together your multi-media presentation, and for the moderator for his allowance. 02:51:16 Rev. Phillip R. Agee: A whitewashing of the world to eliminate the value of what our forefathers have contributed and given their lives to make the world what it is today. We need to stay vigilant and outspoken in all aspects of our lives. Rev. Phillip R. Agee 02:51:21 Cristina Ajemian: Senator Cory Booker and others have recently released a study that shows the health of Americans, including African Americans, is negatively affected by the poor diet that is so prevalent in the US. Food deserts, where fresh food is not readily available, has a major impact on poor neighborhoods with dire health consequences we saw during Covid. 02:52:54 Charlee Martin: From working on units in the USA, I know with nursing staff were often given heavier patient loads and riskier patients when they were POC / Black. Same with BAME nurses here - often remark they have unequal patient allocation, and riskier patient allocation 02:52:56 Carole Copeland Thomas She/Her/Hers: LOVED ALL of the videos featuring our young people!! 02:53:08 Angel Simmonds: I lost my Grandmother in the UK and my Uncle in the US to Covid within 2 weeks of each other! Health inequalities not genetic, social! 02:53:17 Sarah Gielty: Absolutely incredible - thank you all so much. 02:53:43 Angel Simmonds: Thank you amazing 02:54:24 Bakari Copeland: Nice 02:54:25 Cristina Ajemian: Thank you all. So much to learn. 02:54:26 Rev. Phillip R. Agee: Absolutely an informative SUMMIT! Rev. Phillip R. Agee 02:54:30 Charlee Martin: Amazing!!!! Thank you Garth!!! 😍 02:54:42 Linda Fus: thank you, thank you, thank you! 02:54:46 Bakari Copeland: Thank youi Mr. Dallas! 02:55:04 Curdina Hill: Thanks Garth, Carole and all participants. Curdina 02:55:39 SAUNDRA STEPHENSON: Thank you Carole for such a learning experience. Each speaker I learned something different. 02:55:58 ketty camilien: Thanks a million.. I have some reading to do... so insightful! 02:56:25 Anna Perkins: Nice work, Garth! Congrats to the team. 02:56:36 Barbara Bostick: Outstanding! Barbara Bostick 02:56:51 Garth Dallas: THANK YOU ALL!!! 02:56:59 Charlee Martin: Thank you Carole, Patrick, Geoff and Bill! Absolutely brilliant! 02:57:02 Denise: Thanks Everyone! I'll age myself. HBCU Florida A&M had a Black hospital on campus - where I was born :o)! My grandfather taught there.